Episode 6

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6th Mar 2020

EP 06: Playing Your Own Game with Zachary Babcock of Underdog Empowerment

No one’s story reads like yours. But business ownership and the world of entrepreneurs can make it feel necessary to tell a story that isn’t yours, or to make yourself into someone you aren’t. Suddenly, you’re not making decisions that fit with you anymore. How do you get back on track and continue to succeed? 

Zachary Babcock lasted exactly half a shift at his first job. Equipped with a naturally restless mind, he walked a winding path – including drug use, 5 years of prison time and a stint in life coaching – and ended up finding a way to make an impact on others like him through podcasting. Now, he runs the Underdog Empowerment podcast, which has drawn an avid listener base and reached the top 50 list on iTunes. 

On this episode of the Rigging the Game podcast, Zach and Dan walk through the concept of “playing your own game”, the blueprint for (quickly) churning out unique, high-quality content, and how Zach turned the perceived “weaknesses” of his childhood into superpowers. Join the conversation to start focusing in on your own story. 


What You’ll Learn 


  • How ignoring your intuition in favor of what you “should be doing” will compromise your success
  • Why strategically being yourself is different than filtering your personality to be popular (and why one helps and the other hinders)
  • Which metrics will get your podcast into the top 200 on iTunes
  • And much more!


Favorite Quote


“No matter who you act like, there’s always going to be a bunch of people who don’t like you regardless. So, it’s a lot easier being yourself.”


- Zachary Babcock


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About the Podcast

(UN)Conventional Wealth
(UN)Conventional Wealth is the top resource for entrepreneurs who want unconventional strategies and tips to win at business and life on their terms.

Entrepreneurs who are breaking through barriers while setting new standards in their industry recognize that the cliché, cookie cutter, and conventional recommendations about finance and business don’t apply to them.

This podcast will release you from the “WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING” chains so you can massively win at business and life by playing your game.

Painful shyness intersecting with an insatiable desire to compete (and WIN) birthed a relentless curiosity to understand how to massively win at business and confront fears without conforming to a set blueprint.

This show is for the purpose-driven entrepreneur who recognizes that the cliché, cookie cutter, and conventional recommendations about finance and business don’t work because they’re playing a different game.

As a painfully shy kid, I often found myself on the sidelines quietly observing the game of sports, life and business until the flames of competitiveness grew to a bonfire and took over. From the ashes, birthed a relentless curiosity and drive to understand how to massively win at business and confront my fears without conforming to a set blueprint.

I share the unconventional strategies and tips I learned to make sure you win (get what you want) under your rules. Hear all the “a-ha” moments as a business owner, dad, exercise enthusiast and serial idea generator while interviewing other thought leaders who have developed their own strategies to rig the game to win.